Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. is way overpriced for what it does. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. Those heated water molecules will warm the human body faster than air molecules. You still need them. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. heater was done on his own time in his own garage with his own tools and therefore would be outside of his scope of employment. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. :). Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. It does nor really matter what type of heat source is used: gas, electric, oil, wood, solar, wind etc. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. To do that, you need to weatherize your home and lower your thermostat(s) so your heating system has to work less. 00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247. for 1+3, enter 4. My central gas system is currently broken beyond repair, and until I can install a new system, I am heating every room with electric space heaters, and here in the cold mountains, it's running $300-$400/month (yes, I know, it's temporary madness). While almost 100% of the electricity is transformed to heat, it is one of the most expensive ways to produce heat. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. of insurance. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. We. P.S. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. I love it. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. This has been disputed. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Price? Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). In some situations yes but in some no. This actually makes their heater less efficient. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. cj. The blower came on but no heat. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). Frame homes use a radiant barrier as a film on the foam insulation on the outside of the home. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Loves them! 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. Buyer beware ! I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. The Edenpure is better than most electric heaters because Of how it creates its heat. The E.P. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. Lowering your home's thermostat (s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heating will cut your utility bill. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. You do the math. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Why do you think they would do that? A big amen to all you have posted. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. That's right. A UNIT is $1000. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. PERIOD. Its safer than most to. The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. No complaints at all. Our house is more than 2800 square feet (not cubic feet) and we have the heater down stairs. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? Question: What is the best portable heater? Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. Edenpure heaters are a scam. Not much more than the eden pure heater can generate in the same hour. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. xc. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Paying almost $400.00 an Edenpure with needing bulbs every two years, these are no longer a savings, Biotech Research lends their name Edenpure out to all these little retailers who soak you on the price of the heating bulbs. For the same heat output, electrical heaters are way more expensive than heating with a fuel like natural gas. Sale price $247.00 Sale. There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. What a bunch of scam artists. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. The cost was going to be $10,000. June 10, 2022 bardowie loch parking. Coo-coo ka-choo, Mrs. Robinson, Mr.Jones has left and gone away, hey, hey, hey." A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. FACT: Nonsense. Well, it looks like EdenPure is at it again, this time with a TV commercial! Shame--big time--on Bob Vila, since he HAS to know better. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. I promise you the payback on this will be much better than an expensive space heater. I just read Steve's reply and had he spelled better I might have give it more creditability. Hmmm, think about it. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Nothing has changed. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! The movie, with a. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. That's common sense. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! Bill Burkett is known for Skarecrow (2004). There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. They were not meant to be used in that manner. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. So, all is not equal definitely. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. When I phoned to know what the cost of a replacement bulb would be a year ago they said they did not have any except to put in new units being shipped which is why I waited til now to look into buying. . Set in rural Ohio, the birthplace of football, a small-town high school football team rises to play their cross-town rival, a perennial powerhouse, while standing up for an entire community. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. How? i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. ****. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) I WAS FREEZING. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. 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