There could have been a million ways to defeat thanos, but doing so in those ways may have left the stones in tact and thus a few years after thanos dies, someone else shows up and kills everyone. While Strangemay not have intervenedbecause he foresaw Thanos eventually using the Gauntlet either way, the fan theory suggests that he actually wanted the Snap to occur. Thousands of other tiny variables that could affect the outcome of the battle. In the comics, Drax is not only much stronger than his on-screen counterpart, he was essentially created to defeat Thanos. . . . . . . . . . . Just With the supporting power from space stone, soul stone and power stone, the effects of time stone won't really help Strange to defeat Thanos. Nope, not happening. Thats the way he got Peter to pop out of different portals while fighting Thanos as well as Mantis dropping down on his head. He had no way of breaking out of a time loop. Allowing him to sense the passage, even within a loop, was key to wearing down his defenses(and rounding out Doctor Strange'sexploration of the fear of death). Not a victory. But a key moment in Avengers: Mech Strike #4 might as well have been written as a rebuttal to Strange's inaction in the film. Furthermore, in round three when DS is given the opportunity to foresee all possibly future battle outcomes, he would know any potential tactics Thanos might use and thus could effectively steer the direction of battle away from these to ones that are more favourable toward himself. And maybe (and apologise for the cross fandom mention {HP}) Strange is only worthy of possessing one of the infinity stones and not mess up everything - but again, new Spider-Man trailer seems to imply hes not worthy of the time stone either. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark Strange wins. However, as the 2016 Doctor Strange film suggested, tampering with time comes with its own costs, including the distinct possibility of Thanos being trapped in a time loop if he potentially attempted to repair the Gauntlet. Even Thanos himself questions it during their fight. If disintrigate the very stone itself could not stop its effect, I am not sure if someone else can just take it and make it stop without the caster's consent. Perhaps, duringhis fight with Thanos in Infinity War, he could have aged Thanos into an early (late?) Despite being vital in how they beat Thanos, Strange still surrendered himself to his allies because of his crime and didn't even resist when Black Bolt executed him. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Strange was after destroying the stones. ), -No Ant man still? Plus, while we have seen Thanos used the most basic form of time manipulation but simply turning the time back, he is not a socerer so there is no gurantee he could cast/undo the higher form of spells such as time-loop. Thanos with 4 stones should have no problems breaking free even if strange somehow succeeds in casting a spell when he failed doing so against Maw. Avengers: Mech Strike #4 ends with a dead Thanos and a team out of options - eerily similar to the beginning of Avengers: Endgame. But while some have laid the blame for all that chaos at the feet of certain heroes, things might have worked out for the best, given how dangerous things could have gone for the heroes. Ever since the release of Avengers: Infinity War last year, fans have pondered what, exactly, Doctor Strange's long term plans are after willingly surrendering the Time Stone to Thanos after the battle on Titan. Keep reading to find out. Then we wouldn't have another potentially multi billion dollars movie. In the world of chess, an "endgame" strategy refers to the tactic of promoting a pawn into a more powerful piece and turn the tide of the game. They were headed to Titan to fight Thanos, and he wouldn't be there if the stones weren't there. Doctor Strange didn't trap Thanos in a loop using the Time Stone in Avengers: Infinity War, but why? Throughout the courses, he has worked on a number of short films and documentaries. Doctor Strange 2 seemed to indicate that there was another way to defeat the Mad Titan besides the way it worked out in the Infinity Saga - one that didn't require the world to go through such turmoil. They all play an important part in the battle and in Endgame. In his spare time, Ben is usually watching movies, playing games and running D&D games for friends (and hopes to one day actually be a player). So it appearsthat Doctor Strange wanted the Snap to occur, although some fans have taken the theory even further. Isn't it simply explained that it needed to be the precise individuals who needed to survive (and come back with Hulk's snap)? However based on onscreen feats, I'm not sure either of them could counter the effect of time Stone. All rights reserved. The time loop only worked on Dormammu like that because his realm had no relative time. KEEP READING: Eternals' Best Twist Was Making Its Superman the Secret Villain. How did the Illuminati of Earth-838 Beat Thanos In Doctor Str Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. While none of these is a resolute explanation,they show that Doctor Strange putting Thanos in a timeloop may not be as foolproof as it may initially seem. Just two years later, Doctor Strange found himself fighting another near unstoppable force who threatened mass destruction: Thanos. Thanos on the other hand is the opposite. New Rumor Reveals Ben Affleck's Batman Involvement In James Gunn's DCU, Warner Bros. 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Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one that happened in Endgame. However, as a Reddit fan theory from user LuckyMe111 points out, Doctor Strange did nothing to stop Star-Lord from punching Thanos and awakening him. Indeed, Dormammu was from the Dark Dimension, an alternate world that is removed from any conventional understanding of time. In 2016's Doctor Strange, Stephen uses the Time Stone to age an apple forward in time, watching it rot in the span of seconds. Would he be froze still or can he still perform? Since we still know little about the Soul Stone, I'd guess it plays a central role in Endgame. Strange moved the apple forward after only practicing with the Stone for a minute - imagine what he would be capable of if he had just a little more time to hone his skills. Strange himself used the time stone to trap Dormammu and his dimension in a time loop. Seeing as the Book of Vishanti had the ability to grant the reader anything they need to accomplish their goals, the Illuminati probably didn't have to endure five years of hardship before going back in time to get old versions of the Stones the way the Avengers did. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The power and space stones can kill or bfr Strange but can't undo time loop (evidented by the Domarmu battle), the soul stone is featless (as far as I can remember). Ya, Ive seen one theory saying the power stone over-rules the other stones. Looking for all the world like a vengeful Hamlet, Kang holds aloft Thanos' skull, triumphant. Some point out that Thanos' goal was to prevent overpopulation in the universe, and it's also possible that he knew of the Celestials and how they emerge. Infinity war flips this value on its head and asks if you are willing do the opposite of the heroic action in order to bring about the greater good. I think it's more like "TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA, TVA x1million. JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO ALREADY! In this flashback moment, the MCU's Illuminati defeated the iconic Marvel villainon his homeworldTitan,as the shot showed the villainwith his double-bladed sword piercing his chest. Share Improve this answer Follow edited Apr 9, 2020 at 4:42 A.R.K 103 6 A place to discuss Plotholes, Continuity errors or even unexplained events for Movies, Books, Games, or anything else you can think of, Press J to jump to the feed. Strange decided that he can not leave it up to chance. If you are talking about MCU Dr Strange vs MCU Thanos , then Dr strange would win. In infinity war , he went toe to toe with Thanos who had 4 infin When Iron Man and Spider-Man boarded the ship to save Dr. None of that contradicts what the OP said though A question I always wondered is were all these possibilities as a result of them landing on Titan? In the fight Thanos would have wanted Strange to attempt to use the time stone so that he can see the stone and take it. Yea, there are a lot of situations where Thanos could have pretty easily been defeated. If even a small mistake or deviation from the plan was made he would rewind time and try again. If even one person is standing a few feet away from where they need to be they could be killed, injured, or too slow to help out another. Also, The Ancient One mentions that she can't see beyond her death so there may have also been some in that 14 million which they did succeed but Strange died before seeing that possibility and so counted it as a fail. Related: Doctor Strange's Role In Avengers: Endgame. After the game-changing events of Avengers: Endgame, Marvel Studios hasn't slowed downwith the story delivered thus far in Phase 4 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Strange can't just fight Thanos the same way and be successful. Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain While Strange could control time with the Why Didn't Doctor Strange Trap Thanos In A Time Loop? For requests, comments, or to hear his pitch for a third Avatar series that incorporates robots, you can reach him atbs.zachary@gmail.com. Stones are destroyed. How, exactly, the Quantum Realm and Ant-Man will play a factor in Thanos' final defeat has yet to be seen, but before their deaths at the hands of the Mad Titan, Pym did leave behind a mobile lab to venture deeper into the microscopic world while original Wasp Janet Van Dyne warned Scott of time vortices within the Realm before he returned for an exploratory mission. That attempt failed. With Doctor Strange peering into over 14 million possible futures, one fan theory suggests he foresaw a key event from Eternals: the emergence. WebSo, if Doctor Strange had simply used the time stone to stop or slow time, there's no way Thanos would have time to react to that stimulus, formulate a response, and have his >Dr. Their leader Ajak may not have been inspired by Tony Stark's sacrifice and had the realization that Earth is worth saving. Stones destroyed. I hardly doubt they will beat or undo his actions simply by physical force. Dormammu isn't just new to the concept of time, he doesn't understand the sorcery Strange is employing (who didn't know it was an Infinity Stone). Next: Captain Marvel Is Stronger Than Aquaman - Even Underwater. And also, it's unknown how far into the future Strange peered, as the Emergence was ready around one year after the events of Endgame, meaning he would've had to have looked pretty far into each future. ", Some of these comments show why the ancient one would NEVER have given you the time stone. Strange using the time stone meaning he likely would have failed if he tried. Strange did use the time stone against Thanos on Titan. The group is composed of Charles Xavier, Mister Fantastic, Black Bolt, Captain Marvel, Captain Carter and Baron Mordo, who has replaced his world's Doctor Strange as both Sorcerer Supreme and a member of the Illuminati after his death. @kell_saloks: I don't think Strange can use another spell while doing time-stop. 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As a beingof our dimension, Thanos may not be quite as susceptible to a similar trick, especially given how driven he's presented as being. Seeing that this battle is as important as it is Dr. Why those possibilities didn't come up is a mystery, although it could be chalked up to Earth-616 not being in danger of an Incursion or any other kind of interactions with other universes before Spider-Man: No Way Home. Web#Thanos #DoctorStrange #InfinityWar"We're in the Endgame now." It also could be that Strange was only able to access successful futures feasible in his universe. If the Avengers haddefeated Thanos on Titan, then the events in Eternalsmight've played out very differently. 13 Captain America Cap was able to hold back a nearly unstoppable Thanos with just his bare hands, an impressive physical feat. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The other key difference between the two situations is knowledge of the Time Stone. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness showed an alternate ending to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame where Thanos was defeated on Earth-838. It's true that Doctor Strange looked into more than 14,000,605 different futures "to see all possibly outcomes of the coming conflict" but evidently there were still some futures he did not see. And of course, Doctor Strange is not entirely helpless even without the time stone, and capable of putting up a decent fight with his verstility to protect the stone, so it might not be so easy for Thanos to "just take it" and end the loop himself even if he could perform the undo spell. If he knew about this event, then he may have taken it into account when giving Thanos the Time Stone. The Time Stone, one of the six Infinity Stones, is perhaps the easiest and most succinct method; the wielder of the Time Stone can even move objects forwards and backwards through time. 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