And this goes unchallenged! That neighbor would include jews, mohammedans, shintoists, hindus, etc. Dallas, TX Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. Joliet, IL *** No I didnt. Mine is no1. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. Lexington, KY Sacramento, CA financially, the college was always on life support. The FSSP does not have time to respond to every crackpot coming down the internet pike. Christendom College will see three of its alumni ordained as priests this summer. So the horror continues and the FSSP..same story. Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Quite honestly, few of us can giggle today, no? I am so sorry that this has been your lot, its heart rending. The obituary was featured in Newsday on June 14, 2009. At first I thought this was an angry tirade toward Mr. Voris for alleged plagerism. If Catholics do not like these attacks on the SSPX your beef is with the FSSP and its superiors. I give you credit. Houston, TX Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. All in mortal sin? Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. I think that for piety, for love of Our Lord, and for love of the Holy Father (no matter how bad he is), we ought to publicly resist his errors based on the previous Popes throughout history. Little Rock, AR There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. Wolfe is in some way, if not directly, but indirectly involved in what we are seeing play out. Youre free to believe so if youd like, but I dont. Whatever happens in October affects not Holy Mother Church. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. In exercising one of mine here, it must be said that the Dimond Bros. teach against several Sent.certa teachings of Holy Mother Church. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. Only God can do that. The accusation that I luv those who want to destroy the Church is an obfuscation. We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. There is no doctrine, no moral apart from Him who declares Himself to the be the Truth. Fort Myers, FL Maple Hill, KS The reality is that, regardless of what Bishop Olson did in taking away the right to TLM from the college (and failing to provide any alternative), Fisher More was in a terminal state due to imprudent financial decisions made by the administration. The archdioceses Office of Ministerial Standards brought the information related to Father Saguto to law enforcement, and law enforcement has advised us that they are not initiating a criminal investigation, the archbishop said. The Church is Christ, in her visible human element and invisible divine element, living through the ages in such a way as to be a place of dogmatic and moral security as a house built on rock, and where one understands how to love and live from the Person who is Life itself. His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Richard M, 1 of the problems we have is that if your a traditional catholic bad wording but you know what i mean then what tends to happen is you end up in one of those groups in my comment lower down. Dear Alarico, Many people think the Dimond bros are fanatics (God knows what they would think of St. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ or even St. Paul or St. Catherine of Sienna etc.) To spread this kind of crap (totally unsubstantiated) around for thousands to read is sinful. Meaning the official constitutions and public documents between Rome & the FSSP. 1:00pm Keynote Speaker - Dr. Robert Loretz. these are mostly priests that *belonged* to the SSPX. Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. We are truly living in a period of disorientation. So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. He deleted from his website any and all references to his former positions; as well as the segments that include me; a 13 part Vatican II series among them. I really appreciate the space provided here in regards to the excellent content being discussed. Register Now. Peace be to you. There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. That said, we all have differing personalities, ways of expressing ourselves that can even vary from day to day. Francis called a protestant minister his brother bishopthe man has an entirely different concept of sacraments, sin, church, juristiction, etc. http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html. You are remeniscent of the UBS Executive in the Classic Satire, Network, having turned Michael Voris into Howard Beale and all the Innanity which followed. If I found myself in a place where only an SSPX or Norvus Ordo were available, I would choose the SSPX, hands down, and I would know it was valid thanks to Fr. With respect, atttempts to moderate commmenters on this site have been undertaken by other commenters here before, going back years. It answers a lot of questions I had in my mind. General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. I think it is excellent. Congrats. Positively, perspective and vigor can also be reclaimed by personal initiative and vigilance to make sure we do not get into ruts with the things that are supposed to be most important, that we are mindful of the obvious in such matters (kind of ironic when you hear it said that way). MEMORIALS. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. Stop using deceptive language. Whether or not they actually desire her destruction, or are simply operating in ignorance, is of no bearing on the present matter whatsoever. Fort Worth, TX In light of all that surrounds us, (the new annulment process, synod on the family, silence on sodomite marriage, etc.) Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. And for conversions we pray for, remember that among the Christian denominations there is only one Baptism it belongs to the Catholic Church so ask the Holy Ghost to stir up in them the courage to see where the blind spots are in their profession of faith. However, over the last year and a half U.S. dioceses and religious orders serving most of the Catholics in the country have released lists of "credibly accused" abusers who have served in their ranks, using their own criteria for whom to include. Having said that, it is a bit disappointing having come to the knowledge that full disclosure on this site has given, to know that Fr. For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. And whatever Kings responsibility (or lack thereof) for that, you can hardly blame Olson of the Mater Dei priests for that state of affairs. Incomplete, because it does not take sufficiently into account the living character of Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught, comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. We are not just dealing with infighting we are dealing with Satanic attacks by false brethren and wolves in sheeps clothing. The question of the FSSP really is a question of doctrine,principle and new mass. I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. Nor are they interested in arguments. Chesapeake, VA They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. I cant believe it! Minneapolis, MN Dear Scott, On behalf of all of the members of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Superior General and his Council would like to express their great thanks to Fr. I literally admire your use of sarcasm & I must admit, its well executed & actually appreciated. Wolfes earlier talks (2003-2006) on audio sancto. It is their dissent and heterodoxy and lack of courage that have caused all of this to happen. Kansas City/Westwood, KS It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. The college (despite having some good faculty and staff) was on track to die either way, and that cannot be laid all at the feet of the bishop, or the FSSP at Mater Dei. 8:00am Preparation for Mass*. *** Here, let it not be said that the interior of anyone is being judged. Im surprised to see terminology used here. Tacoma, WA Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? If they fail to do their duty then the moral responsibility for the many Mortal sins coming from all of this rest with the leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. FSSP NA on YouTube dear salvemur, Perhaps, I should chose my words more carefully. 3 options 1. If I do, in fact, belong to an exclusive club, I would hope it would be as a Catholic faithful who adheres to the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church as Christ established it. This has happened more than once in America. I absolutely have always loved this film. UPDATE: Having just received a message from a friend on the ground, Im happy to clarify that Fr. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. Problem sorted. Do they care? Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. But who gets to determine where the standard of Christ is planted? Richmond, VA The Missive Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. Lexington, KY We assume they are coming from a position of the Faithbut theyre not. Use those words. Atlanta, GA FSSP pastors are . If we want to be charitable, we could possibly say that its because of the treatment of sedevacantists described above, that a small number of sedes respond to other trads in a kind of a backlash mode, if you will. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. The FSSP offers the Mass according to the form that was in use prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. *** A couple decades ago I wrote for a very popular trad bi-monthly which I will not name, whose editor said a now famous statement: You can tell they are Catholics by their hate. Im glad you agree that Fisher Mores story is so important. May Our Lord reward you for your great defense of the Faith and holy priests, EVERYWHERE!! I do get it that your comment here was not meant to be an intensive treatise. I will say this: Stay away from the FSSP, Taylor Marshall and CMTV. Nevertheless, I address you here not out of disrespect, but simply because the sedevacantist position is almost always inaccurately sketched out and characterized here & elsewhere. Light and life to all He brings, throwing light on our blind spots, provided of course that we give the Infant in the Manger the attention He rightfully deserves. Rev. John 10:11], http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1870-will-you-die-for-him-a-sermon-on-the-eve-of-persecution-in-america, (3) SSPX now that it is wanting to be in full communion w/heretics is pretty silent itself. You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. Seattle, WA Cardinal Burke has been very clear: If Pope Francis puts in place a program allowing the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion apart from a true remedy (e.g., an annulment) he will not follow; rather, he said he will maintain the true faith. Take a trip over to Novus Ordo Watch to learn about the actual truth of things, not watered down, but assuming those with a genuine sense of the faith will be given the grace to handle it. South Bend, IN A couple of years ago, I heard a solid Catholic treatment of the Holy Trinity which, in a side note, mentioned that as wonderful as this film is, the part in which the saint explains the Trinity must be ignored. Lincoln, NE I applaud that. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. 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